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	<title>Comments on: Unsolicited Advice:  Job Search (Pt. 7)</title>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s the season&#8230;Academic Job Search Reposts.. &#171; Blue Lab Coats</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s the season&#8230;Academic Job Search Reposts.. &#171; Blue Lab Coats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Should you selectively apply to places where you like the geography?? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: drdrA</title>
		<link>http://bluelabcoats.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/unsolicited-advice-job-search-pt-7/#comment-117</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom-

When I was looking for a job I didn&#039;t apply for 1 position for reasons of geography.  I have been kicking myself ever since (and my husband hasn&#039;t been very happy about it either), because I have since visited said place to give a seminar and found it really great.  My stupid mistake.

Obviously, it&#039;s up to you where you apply- but to maximize your chance of getting a position- including the position you really want its important to have multiple offers.  This is not so easy and means going on as many interviews as possible. ... even if they are in places where you wouldn&#039;t necessarily picture yourself living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom-</p>
<p>When I was looking for a job I didn&#8217;t apply for 1 position for reasons of geography.  I have been kicking myself ever since (and my husband hasn&#8217;t been very happy about it either), because I have since visited said place to give a seminar and found it really great.  My stupid mistake.</p>
<p>Obviously, it&#8217;s up to you where you apply- but to maximize your chance of getting a position- including the position you really want its important to have multiple offers.  This is not so easy and means going on as many interviews as possible. &#8230; even if they are in places where you wouldn&#8217;t necessarily picture yourself living.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this entry over again, I find that I am doing something that some may find stupid.  I refuse to apply for positions in certain place X that I refuse to ever live in.  In doing this I probably didn&#039;t apply for 2-3 positions.  I know it is foolish in some sense, but at the same time, I do not want to live in place X.  ever.  Lest you get a incomplete view, I have applied for positions all over the place...hot, cold, snowy, rainy, international.  I just had to draw the line somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this entry over again, I find that I am doing something that some may find stupid.  I refuse to apply for positions in certain place X that I refuse to ever live in.  In doing this I probably didn&#8217;t apply for 2-3 positions.  I know it is foolish in some sense, but at the same time, I do not want to live in place X.  ever.  Lest you get a incomplete view, I have applied for positions all over the place&#8230;hot, cold, snowy, rainy, international.  I just had to draw the line somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: drdrA</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom-

That&#039;s excellent.  Good luck in your search.  

I felt the same way about departments that I visited that didn&#039;t look super duper on paper- I always got a much better idea of the possibilities in person!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom-</p>
<p>That&#8217;s excellent.  Good luck in your search.  </p>
<p>I felt the same way about departments that I visited that didn&#8217;t look super duper on paper- I always got a much better idea of the possibilities in person!</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More great points. 

I have accepted every interview I have been offered, for the reasons stated above.  And to be completely honest, I have found myself very surprised at how much I have liked places that, on paper, I wasn&#039;t so excited about. Also, I would say that with each interview, my talk and even my &#039;interview skills&#039; are improving.  

administrative staff - I am always very appreciative, thankful and nice in all of my dealings with admin people wherever I go (and also my department).  I think it is in part a reaction to how poorly I have seen said persons treated in my various departments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More great points. </p>
<p>I have accepted every interview I have been offered, for the reasons stated above.  And to be completely honest, I have found myself very surprised at how much I have liked places that, on paper, I wasn&#8217;t so excited about. Also, I would say that with each interview, my talk and even my &#8216;interview skills&#8217; are improving.  </p>
<p>administrative staff &#8211; I am always very appreciative, thankful and nice in all of my dealings with admin people wherever I go (and also my department).  I think it is in part a reaction to how poorly I have seen said persons treated in my various departments.</p>
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		<title>By: drdrA</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Physioprof-  Excellent point.  I will spend considerable time on job talks and the practice thereof- but its absolutely true that your talk given in the first interview is never the best one you give.

Academic- Very true. We have administrative staff that run the whole place, they have been around for a long time and know all the ins and outs of the place.  They are in charge of many things and can help you around the many administrative messes you will get yourself in to when you are the new kid on the block. I always feel kind of strange telling people to behave nicely- but its continuously shocking to me how many times I witness people behaving badly- especially toward those they perceive to be lower on the totem pole...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physioprof-  Excellent point.  I will spend considerable time on job talks and the practice thereof- but its absolutely true that your talk given in the first interview is never the best one you give.</p>
<p>Academic- Very true. We have administrative staff that run the whole place, they have been around for a long time and know all the ins and outs of the place.  They are in charge of many things and can help you around the many administrative messes you will get yourself in to when you are the new kid on the block. I always feel kind of strange telling people to behave nicely- but its continuously shocking to me how many times I witness people behaving badly- especially toward those they perceive to be lower on the totem pole&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Academic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Academic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason to be nice to the administrative staff is that they will be the ones best positioned to help you when you arrive.  Start off with a good relationship.  I think the point about not restricting your geography until after your campus visit is good at all academic levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason to be nice to the administrative staff is that they will be the ones best positioned to help you when you arrive.  Start off with a good relationship.  I think the point about not restricting your geography until after your campus visit is good at all academic levels.</p>
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		<title>By: PhysioProf</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent advice! Another reason for sending your application &lt;i&gt;everywhere&lt;/i&gt; that is even remotely reasonable and accepting every job talk invitation you receive is that you need practice giving your job talk, chalk talk, and interviewing.

Your first job talk is going to &lt;em&gt;suck&lt;/em&gt;! You want this to be at your favorite place, or you want it to be at a place that you are ok with not getting an offer from? After a few interviews, you will get dramatically hugely better at giving the job talk, chalk talk, and generally interviewing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent advice! Another reason for sending your application <i>everywhere</i> that is even remotely reasonable and accepting every job talk invitation you receive is that you need practice giving your job talk, chalk talk, and interviewing.</p>
<p>Your first job talk is going to <em>suck</em>! You want this to be at your favorite place, or you want it to be at a place that you are ok with not getting an offer from? After a few interviews, you will get dramatically hugely better at giving the job talk, chalk talk, and generally interviewing.</p>
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